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Right now we have and for Dune: Part 1 and Dune: Part 2 respectively. Since the parts belong together, and aren't standalone works, I don't believe they deserve separate tags. (Just like we don't create separate tags for each episode of a TV series.)

I think the tag usage for should read something like:

For questions about Denis Villeneuve's "Dune" movie duology released in 2021 (part 1) and 2024 (part 2). Always use in conjunction with the [dune] tag.

should then be removed or merged with .

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    Agreed, making dune-2024 a synonym of dune-2021 sounds ideal. It leaves the tag in existence but defaults to the original tag.
    – Paulie_D
    Commented Apr 1 at 14:50
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    Should review some of this Question first. scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/13505/…
    – Jontia
    Commented Apr 1 at 17:36
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    And also add sort by votes > accepted on Meta.
    – Jontia
    Commented Apr 1 at 17:37
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    @Jontia I'd forgotten about that post. (To be fair, I tend to forget most things more than 3 months back.) But both answers in that post seem to suggest or accept that Dune: Part 1 and Dune: Part 2 require separate tags, and I think that's simply wrong.
    – DavidW
    Commented Apr 1 at 17:47
  • @galacticninja No, because the answers to that question seem to suggest this situation, which I think is incorrect. It's not really possible to address it there (arguing in comments) so the question stands here.
    – DavidW
    Commented Apr 2 at 4:10
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    Year of release seems simplest to me. If you have a question that encompasses both movies, just use both tags?
    – Robotnik
    Commented Apr 2 at 23:50
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    I'm not sure we should have another discussion post about this, especially since the current top-voted answer (with a score of 9 (+13/-4)) in the original discussion post suggests tagging each movie individually, which seems to reflect a community consensus. Perhaps you could post another answer to that question outlining your disagreement and proposing your alternative tagging approach. Commented Apr 3 at 6:26
  • The "consensus" looks a bit weird on that old post. There's an accepted answer from a mod which has a negative score, and then another answer which has a score of 10. What happened there?
    – Rand al'Thor Mod
    Commented Apr 9 at 15:51
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    "Since the parts belong together, and aren't standalone works" — I mean, they were filmed separately, and released separately. Commented Apr 10 at 13:16

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Yes, as per community consensus and our existing practice of tagging individual movies within a series.

The question of tagging for Villeneuve's Dune films has been raised before on meta: "How should we tag the Dune movies?"

We now have a third movie for Dune (ostensibly a movie series... if they ever get the latter parts made). There are questions now being asked specific to this movie. Normally we'd do or such, but this is supposed to be a movie series. Do we want fragmentation into , , etc?

While I understand the argument for a single tag encompassing both parts, the current top-voted answer in the original discussion (with a score of 10 [+14/-4]) suggests separate tags for each movie, with either a year identifier or the official movie name ( or , or ). This approach aligns with our existing practice of tagging individual movies within a series, as seen with the Star Wars and The Lord of the Rings movie series, where each movie has its own tag.

Existing practice is also to add year identifiers to movie tags to avoid confusion with similarly-named works or characters, e.g., questions about the 2012 movie The Avengers are tagged , and questions about the 2008 movie The Incredible Hulk are tagged .

This approach makes it easier to find or browse questions specific to a single Dune movie and avoids the confusion of a 2024 film having a "2021" tag. If a question is about both the Villeneuve Dune films, then both and should be used.

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    My problem with that "consensus" is that it lumps that identification in with a whole lot of other decisions, and it's entirely possible that people felt that most of them made sense and just accepted the answer in general.
    – DavidW
    Commented Apr 4 at 13:26
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    @DavidW I tend to agree that past consensus can and should be revisited as needed, but in this particular case I agree with separate tags for each part.
    – Andres F.
    Commented Apr 4 at 14:42
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    @DavidW Yeah, it's not "consensus ", more "who's shouting the loudest at the time".
    – Spencer
    Commented Apr 5 at 12:15
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    @Spencer sadly, I find this to be the case for most Meta "discussions". You have to happen to be online in the time window where this is discussed by a minority of very vocal members who seem to check in daily. Once this minority discussed something, it's "the consensus". That's why I don't think consensus is set in stone; it's just a discussion which was held whenever by a minority of members who happen to be well known because they engage a lot here. In this case however I do happen to agree with that past decision, but I'm all for reviewing it if others disagree!
    – Andres F.
    Commented Apr 10 at 17:21
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If "consensus" requires separate tags, we should use meaningful tags (i.e. names) not opaque dates. The separate parts should be tagged , and eventually and not , and (hypothetically).

That this is an appropriate solution is immediately apparent if we start talking about Dune: Part 3, insist on using for it, and then the release date slips a year (or two) making the tag incorrect and requiring a retag.

This also allows the use of the tag to stand for the series as a collective interpretation of the story, if that is useful or necessary. (This would put and at an equivalent level.)

Note that we have meaningful names for every other sequel ever; we don't have or .

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    "Note that we have meaningful names for every other sequel ever; we don't have star-wars-1980 or avengers-2015" — The tag for 2012's The Avengers, however, is the-avengers-2012, probably to distinguish it from the pre-existing comics, and indeed the unrelated 1998 movie of the same name. The tag for the first Star Wars movie is (a-new-hope)[scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/a-new-hope], as it has apparently been eclipsed by the franchise as a whole. Commented Apr 10 at 13:16
  • In short: this stuff is messy. Commented Apr 10 at 13:16
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    Wouldn't dune-part-one be unclear though? How can you tell it's Villeneuve's Dune from that tag? What if someone else remakes it yet again in 2030 and it's split in two or more parts? (You know another remake is inevitable, given how Hollywood works).
    – Andres F.
    Commented Apr 10 at 17:24
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    I think [dune-part-one] should be made a synonym of [dune-2021], and [dune-part-two] → dune-2024]. Vice versa's fine too, as long as there's one tag for each movie. Commented Apr 11 at 1:08
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    Regarding "what if we name the next tag and then the release data slips", the site does not generally accept questions about future works, so by the time any question was on-topic, there would be a definitive release year.
    – IMSoP
    Commented Apr 11 at 8:17
  • @PaulD.Waite because those sequels don't have the same name as other works
    – OrangeDog
    Commented Apr 11 at 14:08

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