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I'm just getting annoyed by users who downvote a post without dropping a comment. It will generally help me in my mistakes on other sites, but this meta issue has been repeating and repeating over again. Especially for me, while I still don't have a high reputation to know that whats in other site which makes me wonder why users downvote my posts and not give a reason why.

To some who know me, I have been asking a lot of Harry Potter questions. Some of them or many have serious problems. While some of my posts are quite discouraging, because there are certain people who don't leave a comment, I really need the comment to improve each and every post especially since I'm not very well trained in English.

It's discouraging because anonymous people are downvoting, and as the asker, I don't even know what's the reason, which leaves me thinking that I cannot improve this question anymore.

As for my recent post which I edited with rants pertaining about this topic, I am sorry because I didn't know there is a meta site for issues here.

I am not speaking generally to all users, many users drops a comment in my post why, thanks for them. :)

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    Note that most of your downvoted question (I mean questions with negative score) are closed as either opinion-based or duplicates. Note that most of your questions have a positive score, and a lot of views. Note that your downvoted and zero-score answers are usually based on nothing, and one of them lacks clear reasoning and grammar. Also, note that even if there were a function to force users to explain their downvotes, nothing would stop them from posting stupid unrelated things, because people are sometimes stupid and irrational. – Gallifreyan Jan 29 '17 at 12:42
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    TL;DR: don't take it personally, leave it be, take a deep breath, and keep posting good stuff! ;) Don't listen to that grumpy guy below – Gallifreyan Jan 29 '17 at 12:45
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    Note that there are 3 reasons listed for downvoting in the downvote pop-up: "This question does not show any research effort; it is unclear or not useful". Some other things I can add from experience is poor use of English, rants, rape questions, and nitpicking. Obviously, posting off-topic questions will earn some downvotes too. Duplicates are often downvoted as well, so some preliminary research would be wise. Lastly, nothing is preventing users from downvoting because they don't like HP, LotR, or just for lulz. Nothing you can do about it, just put it out of your head. – Gallifreyan Jan 29 '17 at 12:54
  • @Gallifreyan: Grammar. yes, grammar. I explained above that I am a Filipino. And I am still lucky enough to express my thoughts in not-so-advanced English. Then it gets downvotes. – Invoker Jan 29 '17 at 12:55
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    @Gallifreyan - More's the point, people are prone to downvote for precisely the reason that the OP has highlighted; poorly researched, badly written. Simply saying "I'm not English" isn't cause to write poorly or a shield against downvotes on a primarily English-language website. Here's an idea, why not ask someone in chat to proof your work before you post it? – Valorum Jan 29 '17 at 12:55
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    If I went onto a Filipino website and posed a question in broken Filipino, would I expect to get downvotes? Yes, I would. – Valorum Jan 29 '17 at 12:57
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    If a post is written in poor English, the correct thing to do is to edit it, not downvote it just for that reason. (Assuming it's comprehensible at all, of course.) We're supposed to judge based on question quality alone. – Rand al'Thor Jan 29 '17 at 12:59
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    I'm talking about using jargon and slang, and short stuff like thx plz ok, and lack of punctuation. Your latest question are very well worded - they convey meaning without needless rants. Everything else we can take care of via edits. – Gallifreyan Jan 29 '17 at 13:00
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    @Valorum - So what's with the edit button guys? Is it just a display and has no reason to be put there at all? I assumed that it was also for correcting other's grammars, so you don't downvote a post that easy. – Invoker Jan 29 '17 at 13:02
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    @BookStriker - I think the problem here is that you seem to expect the community to make major fixes to your posts (potentially dozens of grammar errors). That can be perceived by some as laziness. – Valorum Jan 29 '17 at 13:06
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    @KyloRen -Well written, well-researched questions get upvotes. Poorly written, poorly-researched questions get downvotes. Sure, there's the occasional drive-by downvoter who downvotes for no good (or discernible) reason, but that's hardly the norm. – Valorum Jan 29 '17 at 13:13
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    @BookStriker - I was referring to this comment. Speaking as someone who's done more than my fair share of edits, I can tell you that I'm still sorely tempted to downvote questions that contain poor English. – Valorum Jan 29 '17 at 13:29
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    @Valorum The language of the Philippines is called Tagalog, not Filipino. – user14111 Jan 30 '17 at 0:36
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    @Randal'Thor - I posted a SO meta answer on the topic once. Basically, there's two kinds of "bad English" posts - the ones that are crystal clear where the user simply didn't have English proficiency; and the ones where the user simply didn't bother putting in the effort to write a quality post (no language on earth forces you to write all-lowercase, all-punctuation-lacking, wall of text rants). Typically, the difference between the two is rather clear. It's just as wrong to use the English problems with #1 to downvote, as to use the English problems with #2 to defend it against deserved DV. – DVK-on-Ahch-To Jan 31 '17 at 19:29
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    @DVK Good point. To be clear, in my comments above I was referring only to type #1. – Rand al'Thor Jan 31 '17 at 19:42
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Absolutely, But this site does not require that, so revenge down votes are common practice here.

Good luck trying to change this though.

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  • It just really annoys me. I never knew I would face this kind of game in scifi stack exchange, well I am sure all of the sites experience this. Yes, you are quite right about they are not required, but reasonable. – Invoker Jan 29 '17 at 12:20
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    I won't downvote the question, because I think it's important, but I downvoted your answer because a) it offers no solution and b) looks like whining. A good answer would be "people here are free to vote however the hell they want to, don't take it personally and try to improve your question/answer". – Gallifreyan Jan 29 '17 at 12:23
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    @Gallifreyan, so you have never been subjected to revenge down voting. Congratulations, you are the first person I know of that has not. – KyloRen Jan 29 '17 at 12:26
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    @Gallifreyan I just want also to ask if how can I improve my posts if I don't even know what the reason is? – Invoker Jan 29 '17 at 12:28
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    Gallifreyan is right. The real answer here is that downvotes reflect personal taste (only close votes reflect any sort of objective criteria). Requiring people to explain their downvotes would discourage a lot of people from downvoting (for fear of getting into a fight in the comments section), and downvotes are necessary to preserve quality. For anyone who's getting downvoted a lot (and not having those votes reversed by the system as serial voting), I suggest examining your posts to find out what's wrong with them, rather than whining about being targeted. – Rand al'Thor Jan 29 '17 at 12:44
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    This sort of overly negative post is neither helpful to the OP, nor presents you in an especially good light, @KyloRen. – Valorum Jan 29 '17 at 12:58
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    @Valorum, and I care what light I am perceived in, I think not. I have helped the OP, this site is so biased it is not funny, if you can7T see that then bad luck. – KyloRen Jan 29 '17 at 13:00
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    You state: "revenge down votes are common practice here". How do you know that? How do you know if a downvote is based on revenge? – Reinstate Monica - Goodbye SE Jan 29 '17 at 13:10
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    @KyloRen - I suspect it's because users have gone to have a look at your questions/answers (as you invited them to) and have decided that they're worthy of downvote. – Valorum Jan 29 '17 at 13:14
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    @KyloRen - You've invited users to go look at your posts. Some of those posts aren't great and have already had downvotes and you're acting surprised that you've had some more downvotes? – Valorum Jan 29 '17 at 13:19
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    Anyway, as I said above, commentary on this post has been moved to chat. Since I can't move further comments to chat after having done so once, I'll just have to delete them. – Rand al'Thor Jan 29 '17 at 13:20
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    @KyloRen - If you feel that you're being targeted, click the Contact Us button and ask for a CM to review your vote history. If someone's been taking a whack at you, they'll stand out like a sore thumb. My gut instinct (looking at your post history and vote history) is that no-one's been targeting you. – Valorum Jan 29 '17 at 13:21
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    You may also want to note that the more aggressively you treat downvoters, the more unlikely they are to stick their heads over the parapet so that you can yell at them. Although I usually explain my downvotes, there are certainly a number of users that I don't bother to, because of their history of getting upset and taking it out on whoever's stupid enough to announce themselves as a downvoter. – Valorum Jan 29 '17 at 13:37
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    @Randal'Thor, so you delete my comemt that deals with the voting issue, so that I can still look like I care about voting . Good on you bud. – KyloRen Jan 29 '17 at 14:25
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    @KyloRen I copied that comment into the chatroom which, as I've already stated twice, is where further commentary on this post should be taken. I've already deleted 42 comments on this post (and it's soon to be 44). If you don't want people to see how much you care about voting, feel free to delete your own comments going on about voting. – Rand al'Thor Jan 29 '17 at 14:29

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